WhichMat Podcast Ep. #19: Third degree black belt John McKean discusses the importance of rituals in BJJ and learning with Pedro Sauer.

Third degree black belt John McKean discusses rituals in BJJ, Pedro Sauer and the early days of BJJ in Utah, training in Brazil as a "Gringo!" and also how each person's BJJ journey truly is their own.

This podcast was formally known as the Jiu-Jitsu Jabber Podcast and has since been rebranded to The WhichMat Podcast.